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Solar Charger Question for Generator Starter Battery?

1.7K views 16 replies 9 participants last post by  Rolanalon  
#1 ·
Planning on generator shed but it would sit in a very very shaded area with zero direct sun. Running 120VAC to a charger in the shed is possible but not ideal and somewhat difficult. Prime genset power will be a 50 amp outdoor connector. It's a big generator still to be delivered so I assume a fairly large battery as far as generators go.

Thinking of a solar trickle charger but would need about 20 feet of cord to run outdoors routed mostly under a deck so out of direct weather to see any sunlight. Panel would get only a few hours of sun in winter under ideal conditions and up to 8-12 hours in summer. Be mounted on east/southeast direction with some blockage. My hours are estimates.

Most of the solar chargers I see the cables look poor for outdoor weather resistance. I live in northeast US, central MA.

Is this a bad idea? Any links to suitable panels/cables? Other suggestions to keep battery charged ready for power outage I haven't thought about?

You folks have been very helpful so far in my new journey
 
#17 · (Edited)
Your question about using a solar charger for your generator starter battery is intriguing! Integrating renewable energy into traditional power setups is a smart move, blending efficiency with eco-friendliness. Solar companies are booming for a reason – they offer innovative solutions like this one. Personally, I believe it's a fantastic idea to harness the sun's energy to keep your generator ready to kick in whenever needed. It's like having the best of both worlds – nature's power supporting your backup plan. I'd love to hear what others think about this clever setup. Let's keep the discussion flowing!
 
#16 ·
Since it is a starting battery, the generator will recharge the battery while the generator is running. After that, you just need to compensate for the battery's self-discharge while it is idle, waiting for the next start. My case is an off-grid system, so I use the generator more than just during the rare utility outage, but the fact remains that the one solar panel I have hooked up to the generator battery only needs to keep the battery topped up, it does not need to apply a bulk charge.

My solar panel is a 40-some year old nominally 12 volt unit, originally retired from the MIT/Lincoln Laboratory. It's so old I could not find the specifications for it. I have no charge controller on this circuit (of course I do on my main power system). You could do the same with a low power nominally 12 volt panel. It is in an ok but not great spot for solar exposure. I am, buy the way, in New Hampshire. Lowe's sells a product they call low voltage landscape wiring that ought to work. You should install an in-line fuse at the battery end of the connection to protect the wiring should there be a short circuit develop in the wiring or panel.
 
#15 ·
Since it is a starting battery, the generator will recharge the battery while the generator is running. After that, you just need to compensate for the battery's self-discharge while it is idle, waiting for the next start. My case is an off-grid system, so I use the generator more than just during the rare utility outage, but the fact remains that the one solar panel I have hooked up to the generator battery only needs to keep the battery topped up, it does not need to apply a bulk charge.

My solar panel is a 40-some year old nominally 12 volt unit, originally retired from the MIT/Lincoln Laboratory. It's so old I could not find the specifications for it. I have no charge controller on this circuit (of course I do on my main power system). You could do the same with a low power nominally 12 volt panel. It is in an ok but not great spot for solar exposure. I am, buy the way, in New Hampshire. Lowe's sells a product they call low voltage landscape wiring that ought to work. You should install an in-line fuse at the battery end of the connection to protect the wiring should there be a short circuit develop in the wiring or panel.
 
#7 ·
2 amps worth of charger would be the number to seek.
from there you will need 3 times the rated solar panel current to make it work right on the bad days.
solar is ok but over time the panels would need to be replaced.

i think that in the real world a 120 volt run from the house panel to the gen shack would be a good idea
and make a 4 plex outlet in the gen shed.
you can run a basic good maintainer for the battery, and have room for 120 vac led lights in the shed for service work.
and be able to run a shop vac and or an air compressor for service as well.
 
#5 ·
^^^100% agree^^^

If it isn't too late, I'd try hard to get 120V @20A to the shed. May need it for other things down the road like a light, fan, batt heater, oil pan heater, etc. Not a big fan of the cheap solar products in general but definitely use conduit if you go with the solar charger. That cheapo wire probably won't last a season exposed to the elements/critters. MorningStar as prev mentioned is definitely good stuff. That's probably what I would go with if I couldn't get 120V out there.
 
#4 ·
I don't get it.. the generator will require an electrical connection to the house anyhow.. why not just run a 120 volt circuit to it and plug in a ($30) NOCO charger in to keep the battery topped off?

As for small solar charge controllers, off the top of my head, there is only one brand that makes a small charger that won't destroy your battery, catch fire, or just stop working.. that brand is MorningStar.. They make a small SL10 (about $50 to $60 I think). They are quality units. You will need to run the 20ft of wire through conduit or one critter or another will most likely chew it.

Victron makes a nice unit as well.. but they're even more pricey. The rest of them like Renogy, SunGold, etc.. they're all junk.. stay away.

You'd be far better off just running a 120 volt circuit to the shed.

Wow, just double checked the price on the SL10 and they're $100 now.. Holy crap batman! I bought mine for $25 a decade ago. It's still working by the way..
 
#2 ·
Since you are plugging into your house, I assume this is a portable generator. If it is a standby permanently installed genset with modern computer controls you will have a vampire drain on the battery. If it is a portable, probably no vampire drain. I got a 10watt solar charger without a charge controller,for my F250 and it keeps the battery charged. I wish I would have gotten a 20 watt solar charger with mppt controller to keep a constant battery voltage. With the present 10w solar charger my battery stays about 12.0 volts in the winter. Standby generator battery voltage should float about 13.3v.