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the cat is better....
so is this cat service center doing the quote or just a retailer?
 

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Paul,
The CAT dealer is doing the quote. They are subcontracting the install to an electrical contractor and a concrete contractor. I have no doubt the CAT is better. Are you familiar with the Kohler diesels? What is wrong with them?
 

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I am curious, did you look at PDG.com in Atlanta, Ga?
 

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hummm.
cat up here is the primary and full one stop shop..
the guys working on the project all are cat guys....

well if you knew what pad they needed,
you could have that set with a general concrete flat work contractor...
 

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Ok, another question fellas. How important is a PMG alternator verses a self excited alternator. Is this a concern that all the generators I'm looking at come standard with a self excited? Is it worth paying a significant up charge for a PMG?
 

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PMG??? PDG.com was the referred site.
 

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I just read that the CAT C4.4 engine that comes in the CAT 40kw generator I'm looking at is made in the UK by Perkins. Is this engine up to the level of quality and reliability of CAT manufactured engines that everyone swears by? The Perkins is the same engine used in the Generac I was originally looking at. I find it a little troubling that I have moved up from the Generac to the Kohler and then to the CAT just to be back to square 1 with the engine while spending 50 percent more.
 

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Perkins is the engine used in Massey Ferguson tractors and many other devices.
I have owned many.
Reliable and long lasting engines.
 
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Great to hear! Thanks!
Just remember if a product cost less there is a reason why.
I worked in a small hardware store and we sold box fans the same brand and size as the big box store.
Our cost was only cents less then the big box retail. I kept asking why and how. Finally after many calls
into the supplier they finally said to me “ Go to the box and purchase one then bring it back and what weight it”.
Will I got my answer it was 3 ounces lighter.
My point is if it less cost there is a reason you are usually getting less.
I also spent seven years working for an electrical wholesale company.
buyer beware
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“ Go to the box and purchase one then bring it back and what weight it”.
Fortunately, Honda doesn't play that game; a given model number is identical regardless of the sales outlet.
 

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Just remember if a product cost less there is a reason why.
I worked in a small hardware store and we sold box fans the same brand and size as the big box store.
Our cost was only cents less then the big box retail. I kept asking why and how. Finally after many calls
into the supplier they finally said to me “ Go to the box and purchase one then bring it back and what weight it”.
Will I got my answer it was 3 ounces lighter.
My point is if it less cost there is a reason you are usually getting less.
I also spent seven years working for an electrical wholesale company.
buyer beware
Markar
i always like the guys who say "pay me now or pay me later"
and it is soooo true when buying gens...
you pay more up front for a cat or a honda....
but on the back side you are better off.
both have good retail when used.
I have been watching the prices on the bay... some of the honda gens are at almost new prices for well used gens.

i have one gen client that buys new honda gens every year...
and sells the old ones to the employees at $100.00 off new price!
lol the employees take good care of the gens that way!
 

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Ok guys, here is the latest. I have been talking with both the Kohler dealer and the Cat distributor trying to lock in on a final decision. They have to be so sick of me by now! Which way I’m leaning changes by the day at this point. I really like the kohler dealer, his feedback and ratings are excellent from his existing/past customers, he has spent so much time with me both in email and in person. He even arranged for me to come see in person a similar model to the one I’m interested in and opened it up, started it up, went over everything and really went out of his way for me. It appeared to me like a quality machine. I’ve revised the model I’m looking at now to the 40reozk. Now a 40 kw just like the Cat C4.4. This has increased the price to exactly what the Cat costs, but the Kohler has a 5 year warranty vs the 2 year for the Cat. The Kohler also has a PMG alternator as standard (best you can get I’m told) and on the Cat it’s an added option. I like the enclosure on the Kohler much better than the Cat from purely an appearance perspective being next to my house. These two machines both weight the same at 3200 pounds. I almost feel like I’m obligated to buy the Kohler at this point because the dealer has been so great. But I keep hearing in my head the many voices telling me the Cat will be a better generator. Is this a Ford Chevy thing or would buying the Kohler really be a mistake? Sorry if I’m being annoying, just trying to get as many opinions as I can to tip the scale one way or the other.
Thanks!!!
 

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Well, last week I finally signed the contract for the CAT. It was not an easy decision at all and I must have changed my mind a dozen times. I upgraded to the PMG alternator so I don't feel like I was giving up anything to the Kohler (with the exception of the 5 year warranty). I felt bad not going with the Kohler dealer/installer as he was truly exceptional, but in the end I truly believe, after talking to lots of specialists both on and off this forum, that the CAT is a better generator. Thanks again for all the help over the last several months.
 

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Well, last week I finally signed the contract for the CAT. It was not an easy decision at all and I must have changed my mind a dozen times. I upgraded to the PMG alternator so I don't feel like I was giving up anything to the Kohler (with the exception of the 5 year warranty). I felt bad not going with the Kohler dealer/installer as he was truly exceptional, but in the end I truly believe, after talking to lots of specialists both on and off this forum, that the CAT is a better generator. Thanks again for all the help over the last several months.
Congrats. Can you share the cost please? I am looking at a similar setup amd just wanted an idea. PM me if you want. Thnanks much Sir
 

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Thanks. Cost came in at $39,700 with me doing the permitting and digging the 80 foot trench myself. Had to get the cost down as much as I could. I saved nearly 4 grand. I'm happy with my decision so far. I will report back with pics when its all installed.
 

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Generator is finally in! The thing is a beast! Everything looks very well designed and over built. Thanks again to everyone on the forum for all the help and steering me in the right direction! The wife and neighbors think it's over the top but I love it! Haha

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