Buying Honda EU7000IS from Home Depot

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Soya

Discussion Starter · 15 d ago

The cost is $1000 cheaper than the local Honda dealer. The model is EU7000ISNAN in both cases.
Does anyone know if there is a quality difference between the gens sold at HD and those at a local dealer?
I know that warranty service might be faster if bought locally but $1000 is a lot of money for good will.

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Dutchy491

· #2 · 15 d ago

If it was me I’d prefer to buy at the local dealership for quick/personal service if/when required….but $1000 is alot of money. I don’t believe the quality should be any different regardless where you would decide to purchase. However, a dealership would steer you to the correct generator to meet your needs. Get a quote in writing from Home Depot and then take it to your Honda dealership … bet they’d meet it, unless there’s something we’re missing. 🤷Keep us posted.

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GenKnot

· #3 · 15 d ago

Soya said:
Does anyone know if there is a quality difference between the gens sold at HD and those at a local dealer?

No difference in quality.

The MSRP is $5,999. HD is $4,999 because they sell in large quantity. Same price is on Amazon.

Yes, do as Dutchy says and see if local dealer will price match.

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Soya

Discussion Starter · #4 · 15 d ago

Good suggestions. All the local dealers are quoting $5,999. I haven't talked to any yet. May be worth the effort.
I just found out that HD gives a 10% Veterans discount on that item. Makes it very hard to resist.

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GenKnot

· #5 · 15 d ago

Soya said:
I just found out that HD gives a 10% Veterans discount on that item.

Yup, I buy a lot of things from HD and Lowes with my 10% military discount. Unfortunately it doesn't apply to every item in the store. I bought a roll of wire ($550) a couple of months ago and they wouldn't apply my discount. The price of copper right now is just too high for them to discount it.

Ask your local dealer to apply that 10% discount too. It is surprising to me how many places will give me a military discount if I just ask for it.

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pipe

· #6 · 15 d ago

GenKnot said:
The MSRP is $5,999. HD is $4,999 because they sell in large quantity. Same price is on Amazon.

So, with Amazon (Chase) Prime VISA, get 5% off and with Home Depot CITI (Pro Xtra Card) get 4% off

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Soya

Discussion Starter · #7 · 15 d ago

Vet's discount plus new HD CCard application equals total price of $4499

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Browse Deweb

· #8 · 14 d ago

Soya said:
Vet's discount plus new HD CCard application equals total price of $4499

That is what I paid for mine a few years ago. I added the MSK7000 tri-fuel kit afterwards which added to the total price.

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Colt Carson

· #9 · 13 d ago

I like supporting small, local businesses. I don’t think it’s fair to expect the small businesses to compete with Home Depot on price. Maybe meeting in the middle would be fair, which would be $500 off MSRP at the small business.
The Home Depot price would be very tempting, and it’s a Honda… what’s the chance you'd need dealer support?

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Soya

Discussion Starter · #10 · 12 d ago

Browse Deweb said:
That is what I paid for mine a few years ago. I added the MSK7000 tri-fuel kit afterwards which added to the total price.

Did you wait until the warranty period expired?

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Browse Deweb

· #11 · 11 d ago

Soya said:
Did you wait until the warranty period expired?

No. It is removable if I ever needed a warranty repair. No one would ever know.

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Soya

Discussion Starter · #12 · 11 d ago

Browse Deweb said:
That is what I paid for mine a few years ago. I added the MSK7000 tri-fuel kit afterwards which added to the total price.

What's your experience with the MSK kit been like? Do you use propane or NG very much? Does the kit live up to its promise of full power on NG or propane?

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Browse Deweb

· #13 · 11 d ago

Soya said:
What's your experience with the MSK kit been like? Do you use propane or NG very much? Does the kit live up to its promise of full power on NG or propane?

I use natural gas, which is less energy dense than gasoline and propane. I also don't run the generator at high output levels...it's primary purpose is to feed a Chargeverter at around 4kw which converts the generator output directly to DC power that feeds my 20kWh battery bank. When we lose power, I use a 12kW split-phase Growatt inverter to feed my main panel and when the batteries get low, I use the Honda to recharge the batteries. The Growatt is a low frequency model with a large transformer that allows me to run large appliances with high inrush demands like my 4 ton HVAC unit. The Honda alone can't start it.

This is a very convenient setup since the Honda only needs to run a few hours per day for recharging.. It's also great for short outages since I can just flip on the Growatt instead of getting the generator out of the garage and hooking everything up. This setup allows me to run off battery power at night which is quieter and allows me to keep the Honda safe in the garage.

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Soya

Discussion Starter · #14 · 11 d ago

Browse Deweb said:
I use natural gas, which is less energy dense than gasoline and propane. I also don't run the generator at high output levels...it's primary purpose is to feed a Chargeverter at around 4kw which converts the generator output directly to DC power that feeds my 20kWh battery bank. When we lose power, I use a 12kW split-phase Growatt inverter to feed my main panel and when the batteries get low, I use the Honda to recharge the batteries. The Growatt is a low frequency model with a large transformer that allows me to run large appliances with high inrush demands like my 4 ton HVAC unit. The Honda alone can't start it.

This is a very convenient setup since the Honda only needs to run a few hours per day for recharging.. It's also great for short outages since I can just flip on the Growatt instead of getting the generator out of the garage and hooking everything up. This setup allows me to run off battery power at night which is quieter and allows me to keep the Honda safe in the garage.

Very cool.
Do you have a post on these forums that details your setup? I'm very interested in getting more info about it.
Are the batteries in your bank lead-acid or lithium?
Can you store and charge the batteries in an indoor space such as a basement?
Do you charge the bank from grid power periodically to keep the charge level up?

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Browse Deweb

· #15 · 10 d ago

Soya said:
Very cool.
Do you have a post on these forums that details your setup? I'm very interested in getting more info about it.
Are the batteries in your bank lead-acid or lithium?
Can you store and charge the batteries in an indoor space such as a basement?
Do you charge the bank from grid power periodically to keep the charge level up?

Here's a recent post with my setup:

Power Plugs from Generator question

Quick question for a new guy... My generator has a a 120V 3600W Capacity Pure Sine Wave outlet plug. Can someone help me understand why I would use this over the regular 120v outlets that are also included? I did do some research and feel like the advantage is 'cleaner' power for sensative...

www.powerequipmentforum.com

Batteries are LIFEPO4
Stored in the basement
Grid charged unless power is lost

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Colt Carson

· #16 · 9 d ago

Browse Deweb said:
Here's a recent post with my setup:

Power Plugs from Generator question

Quick question for a new guy... My generator has a a 120V 3600W Capacity Pure Sine Wave outlet plug. Can someone help me understand why I would use this over the regular 120v outlets that are also included? I did do some research and feel like the advantage is 'cleaner' power for sensative...

www.powerequipmentforum.com

Batteries are LIFEPO4

Stored in the basement

Grid charged unless power is lost

Do the batteries stay near 100% state of charge most of the time? I'm asking because I've read that lead acid batteries prefer to be held at 100% SOC, but that it is detrimental to lithium batteries.

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tabora

· #17 · 9 d ago (Edited)

Colt Carson said:
Do the batteries stay near 100% state of charge most of the time? I'm asking because I've read that lead acid batteries prefer to be held at 100% SOC, but that it is detrimental to lithium batteries.

Browse Deweb said:
Batteries are LIFEPO4

Lithium iron phosphate has a lifecycle of 1,000-10,000 cycles. These batteries can handle high temperatures with minimal degradation. They have a long life for applications that have embedded systems or need to run for long lengths of time before needing to be charged.

For lithium-ion, the higher energy density makes it more unstable, especially when dealing with higher operating temperature environments. It has a life cycle of 500-1,000 cycles as it can be negatively impacted based on the operating temperature of the electronics or working components.

For more on charging LiFePo4 batteries:

https://sunonbattery.com/guides-lfp-lifepo4-battery/

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Browse Deweb

· #18 · 9 d ago

Yes, they are stored near full charge. The cells seem to settle around 3.35V (x16 cells per battery), so around 53.6V. They will slowly discharge about 1% per month.

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George606

· #19 · 9 d ago

Colt Carson said:
Do the batteries stay near 100% state of charge most of the time? I'm asking because I've read that lead acid batteries prefer to be held at 100% SOC, but that it is detrimental to lithium batteries.

During times when I get paid to support the grid, I will charge LiFePO4 to 95-99%. They will cycle daily. The rest of the year I will charge to 80% and hold it there. If a particularly bad storm is predicted, I will charge up to 100%, but draw down shortly thereafter.

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JVazquez53

· #20 · 7 d ago

Soya said:
The cost is $1000 cheaper than the local Honda dealer. The model is EU7000ISNAN in both cases.
Does anyone know if there is a quality difference between the gens sold at HD and those at a local dealer?
I know that warranty service might be faster if bought locally but $1000 is a lot of money for good will.

I have two Honda EU7000is, none bough from the Honda dealer. Both are identical than the ones in the Honda showroom. Nothing is different.

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