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What oil do I need for the winter months?

Hi guys, I have had my generator for about 5months now and at the moment I am using SAE 30 oil, but I am guessing this is no good for the winter

So what do you recommend, it doesn't get way below freezing here, maybe -10c during the nights. Also do I need Fully Synthetic oil, I am using this oil atm guys,


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What does the manual say? I'd imagine 10W-30 would be good, possibly down to 5W-30.

There is debate on the subject, but what I've heard most often is to use conventional oil until you have 5-10 hours on the engine, then change to synthetic. That's what I'd do, if it was mine. Going synthetic too early can perhaps cause issues with proper seating of the piston rings, depending on what info you believe.
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The spec on the ebay site says "10W30 or 10W40" but in the manual it says SAE 30 aswel. I have been using the SAE 30 from first use and Im guessing that oil isn't "synthetic" that I have been using?. Id say I have used the generator for about 5 hrs or just under in total now.

Anyway what is "synthetic" oil?
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The spec on the ebay site says "10W30 or 10W40" but in the manual it says SAE 30 aswel. I have been using the SAE 30 from first use and Im guessing that oil isn't "synthetic" that I have been using?. Id say I have used the generator for about 5 hrs or just under in total now.

Anyway what is "synthetic" oil?

Oooo! Now there is a question. Here is a post all about oil and the grades in relation to generators.

Hopefully that will answer your questions.

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Oooo! Now there is a question. Here is a post all about oil and the grades in relation to generators.

Hopefully that will answer your questions.
So 10w40 would be good to use during the winter, or even 5w40, if you can get it?........What type of oil shall I use, none, semi or fully synthetic oil? I think Im using none synthetic oil at the moment.

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Don't use xW-40 unless your manual suggests it. xW-30 is more common, and is closer to what you're using now. I'd imagine that 10W-30 would probably be good, but that's based on some manuals for equipment that I have, nothing specific to your engine.

With 5 hours, I'd stay with conventional (non-synthetic) for now, until you get to maybe 10 hours. But if you haven't already, changing the oil at 5 hours is probably a good idea.
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Don't use xW-40 unless your manual suggests it. xW-30 is more common, and is closer to what you're using now. I'd imagine that 10W-30 would probably be good, but that's based on some manuals for equipment that I have, nothing specific to your engine.

With 5 hours, I'd stay with conventional (non-synthetic) for now, until you get to maybe 10 hours. But if you haven't already, changing the oil at 5 hours is probably a good idea.
Thanks for the advice, Im just thinking how cold can the SAE 30 go down, because if that can stay thin in cold conditions, I might aswel stay with that..

The specs says use 10W30, 10W40 or SAE 30
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Thanks for the advice, Im just thinking how cold can the SAE 30 go down, because if that can stay thin in cold conditions, I might aswel stay with that..

The specs says use 10W30, 10W40 or SAE 30
The largest number is the when the engine is hot; so actually it will go as low as you like when the engine is running, it will always be hot. Stationary, when the engine is cold, the first number is more important.

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Thanks for the advice, Im just thinking how cold can the SAE 30 go down, because if that can stay thin in cold conditions, I might aswel stay with that..

The specs says use 10W30, 10W40 or SAE 30
I'm attaching the oil-weight chart for my EU2000i generator's manual. Its engine is splash-lubricated (no oil pump, no oil filter), as I presume is the case for your engine. They show 30 weight for down to 50F, 10C. And 5W-30 or 10W-30 down to about 5F, -15C.

Don't stay with the 30 weight as it gets too cold. I consider 30 an oil for summer-use-only engines. Not for something during the winter. It will be extra-thick in cold conditions, making the engine cord more difficult to pull, and reducing your splashing and lubrication until the engine warms up.

I don't see a benefit to 10W-40. You'd often go to thicker oil (40, vs 30) to reduce oil burning due to it leaking past worn piston rings. But your engine is new, so that isn't needed. It will just be thicker while up to temperature (so more drag on the engine), with no obvious advantage that comes to mind, at least for me.
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The largest number is the when the engine is hot; so actually it will go as low as you like when the engine is running, it will always be hot. Stationary, when the engine is cold, the first number is more important.
Im just browsing now through them......
The SAE 30 has a temp range of 4c - 36c, so thats no good for the winter. All the 5/10w30/40 oils are all part or full synthetic, cant find any that are none synthetic?
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