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Poulan Pro 430VS- no start

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This devil had spark, compression-going to go into carb when I get a chance. Would not start or anything with the SeaFoam in spark plug hole trick. Usually can get something with that, but not this time.
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How was it stored and the last time used with fresh treated fuel?
  • Was it stored with fresh Stabil or Etc fuel additives in fuel on run Bone Dry?
  • How long has it been stored?
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How was it stored and the last time used with fresh treated fuel?
  • Was it stored with fresh Stabil or Etc fuel additives in fuel on run Bone Dry?
  • How long has it been stored?
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Make sure that the fuel lines are in good shape too.



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Did you use a compression gauge? What did the gauge read on the compression tester? What did the piston look like when removing the muffler to see it?
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More history and inspections helps as “all” asked above.

  • Is new, new to you as the 1st time owner/user. If so, how long have you own/used?
  • As you said, most monsters are manageable once you learn their nature of operating.
  • Attached is inspecting a 1980s Poulan S25 cylinder and rings for scoring/wear (no lines/smooth).
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Don't know how it was stored, because it was a "barn find" at my local small engine shop when I needed some supplies.

I opened up the gap on the plug to 3/8th, and the spark jumped it. Rule out spark.

It does fail the "lift up on the recoil handle and see if it stops comming out at the compression stroke" method. Yes, it's very unprofessional but I don't have a compression tester.

It did not fire with the "Seafoam in the spark plug hole", and it did not fire with "pre-mix in the plug hole"method. Tomorrow it might get the "starting ether" methiod.

Leads me to beleive that it's a compression problem, but first the carb will come apart for a cleaning.

But, the piston kit is $35.00, so it's not a budget breaker. If I get him running, I'll be looking for a vacuum attachment kit for him.

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Starting fluid ruins small engines.
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  • Can you hold the compression in the cylinder with your finger while cranking (that is an old school test and you s/n be able to)? BUT! New low compression start might out/weigh that.
  • Is the 35.00 including a piston with rings and a cyl. I rebuilt once due to only needing the piston and rings (50.00) vs another 50.00 for the cyl.
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$29.95 for piston, rod and ring. $10.95 for gaskets.

Took it apart and the cyl looks brand new, still has hone marks-I think that Poulan splurged and had the cyl chromed. Piston and ring is toast-scuffed badly.

For $41.00 I'll put I'll got the parts ordered and will get him up and running-I hope.
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